Stargrace at MMOQuests had a post about how some players feel about trialing new games..
Specifically one player asks
“I’ve got an account for Vanguard but never tried it beyond a few minutes when it first launched. Never really had the time to devot to yet another MMO but… is it worth it? Should I try it? I’m already heavily into EQII, started to dabble with both LOTRO and am trying to get set up with DDO after discovering I have an open account for some reason. Am I going to find something in VG that will grab me?”
She had this to say...
"I tried to think of a simple answer for this and failed - there really is no simple answer. I can’t answer whether or not someone else will find something they enjoy and that will grab them in a game, any game. I can point out the aspects that I personally enjoy (and there are a huge amount) and I admit from the start to everyone that I am very biased towards Vanguard in particular. I never seem to have the number of problems that others have with these games, it runs just about flawlessly for me and when it doesn’t run a quick /flush all command takes care of the minor glitches I may have. I love how complex the game is, the three spheres, diplomacy, crafting, the ability to actually own a house. I love the brotherhood idea - and Prezzer if you’re going to give VG a try then by all means let me know and I’ll do my best to play too so you’ll at least have someone to talk to. I play on the Seradon server"
And it made me wonder why I have an issue with Vanguard.
I started a comment on her site, and it turned into a novel, so I have brought it here...
I devoted time to Vanguard, and it never did it's magic on me, like it did for you (Stargrace).
Maybe it is due to the issues?
Or is it something else?
I like certain features in a game (music, visuals, how the world connects)
And VG did these things for me....at first.
Several classes (hello...Blood Mage...how cool is that) just really grabbed me.
The music ...especially in the Elven district so worked for me..
The thought of doing diplomacy...excellent. I love discussion pieces in games (Bioware is excellent in handling conversation trees)
The mobs and the world were gorgeous..
But, shoddy performance on a high end system just seemed wrong to me.
Crashes seemed messed up to me. (**I will note several game engines just seem to not like newer hardware...EQ2, LOTRO and Vanguard to name a few..so this could be me being "Cutting Edge" getting in the way of enjoying these titles...)
The model revamp from before made the characters look funny (they are slightly better now...but not great)
And the TIME...OMG...
This is probably the true issue and maybe where we differ.
YOU have time to dedicate to your games. And I want more action in less time...which could be my problem.
We both joined Xfire at about the same time (I actually was almost a month before you I think...during the Xfire and games discussions on various sites. I remember when we all started getting the software..Ardwulf, you and I..).
Now look at our hours.
My highest time on a game so far is Guild Wars at 300 hours...
You have EQ2 at 500 hours, and an overall game time of 700 hours.
I have 460+ hrs.
I think Vanguard and even EQ2 require commitments that I am not able to do. I cannot craft for hours, do many HQ's, stay caught up in large grouping endeavors. Raids and Guild functions are not something I can do on a regular basis.
I have an hour or two at a time, and must move on.
Each time I played Vanguard I was running across vast landscapes for minutes at a time. I would die, and be stuck either running back to my corpse or reviving and having to gain back my losses.
I got a horse, yet it still felt like things took forever. Fights were long, and leveling was not very fast.
This might be why EQ2 grabbed me for so long, as leveling did go much faster at first. But, after 8 months, I still did not have a max level character and did not have the time to dedicate to get the money to buy the goods I needed.
And I let it go.
Guild Wars I can hit max in less than a month. Age of Conan had me halfway to max in just one month. EQ2 was close with me hitting 40 in about 2 months.
For Vanguard, in a month I had maybe reached level 20? And that was putting in massive time on the weekends.
Overall, I think for Vanguard, it has nothing to do with it being a bad game actually, but instead being a game I cannot play with.
The world requires more of me than I can offer.
I think if people wish for a game that keeps them enthralled, and they have the time and patience to play it, then they should try it. Vanguard and EQ2 offer these in spades. So much to do, so much content.
I wish I could play like I did back when I started.
WoW, Lineage 2 all required time, and I had that in spades. Guild Wars first campaign even requires dedication (as it takes longer to level once you reach level 15..)
Nowadays, I have maybe an hour or two at most for a session, and I need some variety and some fast paced action.
I also think this is why WAR has not grabbed me.
When I hear people putting 5 hours (or 12 hours like one hardcore blogger I know) into trying to get renown, I have an adverse reaction. And the game does not look good to me either...but that is a whole other issue.
Maybe when I retire, I can then make games my lifeblood...lol.
I really think when people decide on an MMO, they need to take time into account nowadays.
Do YOU as a player have that time to dedicate to a large guild, a large group of online friends?
It does depend on us, and our lives overall in our MMO decisions.
Thanks for a great post Stargrace...
Cheers to you!